Mantequilla Report #18

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I'm starting my recording. Okay, we are actually, today we're taking precaution because last time I almost lost the hangout. So this time, Angalagon is basically recording on his computer, and I am recording using snappy open pods. I'm going to be recording audio and Anka's going to be recording video. So in the post, we're just going to do both. And of course, Anka, I didn't tell you this, but you're going to be in the beneficiaries because both you're hanging out with me. We're going to talk about the ideas. And also you're working. You're putting some effort in. So I'm on clock, yeah, officially. So, yeah, I mean. I wish Tim Fox was here today because he's been putting a lot of work in as well, but he is trying to, and I think this is probably a really good thing, he's trying to balance out his online life with his real life or whatever, me, in person, and he's been really working on his garden lately. He actually posted a video yesterday about this stuff, and he wanted to dedicate the weekend to this. So I'm going to talk about... a little bit about he's been doing some stuff, of course we're doing together, but some stuff he's doing all by himself. So I guess I'm going to start with Tibbs, and I'll invite him to maybe give me things to put on the post itself, and that way people know more. But for those who don't know, right, currently in Mantequia Soft, it is basically Tip Fox and I, and Uncle Logan has been helping me too. the current team, those are the people that are working, Eddie is on sabbatical, and Kessolink is getting married. I think that's pretty awesome, but of course, that means that he has no time for anything. And yeah, so things are right now, so it's just two of us. But that doesn't mean that we're not progressing, that a lot of work is not being done. We're actually, I think it's quite the opposite. We sped up. maybe trying to overcompensate for the team getting smaller, maybe, who knows. But we've been shipping a lot of code. So one of the things that I've been doing with Elangalgo is we've been really focusing on making Snappy IO a better front end. As I was sharing, this is before the recording started. Snappy IO is a fork from Mengau's. breakaway communities. If you were to visit Mengal's profile on Hive, I think it's maybe third or fourth post, because he hasn't posted in a while, where he talks about his breakaway communities and how you can launch your own if you wanted to, using Varsel for free, which is pretty awesome. You can have your own hive front end. But of course, it's been a long... path between what it was when the whole thing started and the basic functions of the breakaway community, which, of course, is posting, snaps, blogs, and basic wide functions to what we have now. We have video recording, audio recording, open ponds, we're doing one right now. We have explorer features that I did this week and other stuff that in order for me to cover in this... audio, I'm not going to do audio and video. I'm not going to do a good job, and I'm probably going to leave a lot of them out. So if you haven't visited SNAPIago, I think you should. But my friend Ankar Galagon has been suggesting even more crazy ideas, and I wanted to ask him if you could, I guess, explain what he was saying earlier before we started recording the idea that he has. About what particular, in particular? Yeah, well, there's a few things that you, that you were working on. One of them was the ability for people to qualify, I guess, whoever is participating. Oh, yeah. Like, a working name is, like, approved creators, probably, or something like this. That's what you want to talk about? for open pods? I think it's a cool thing to discuss, you know, it's a cool idea. For like featured creators, yeah, that's also how we can put it. Name is, name doesn't matter. What it's actually is, it's kind of people who want to make some sort of content on open pods, on snappy, they would be approved to be featured on open pods. So people who are just even scrolling through what Snappy has to offer. They're going to see the accounts of these people and maybe schedule of their live events that they are, want to be doing, like, if it's streaming, if it's, I don't know, maybe some... talks, like, for example, I still want to host some debates or discussions on open posts, but people are not really used to probably to this format yet, so they are not really joining, like, some people join to listen, but they was hesitant to, like, join and talk. But it's okay, like, small steps, small steps, but... Technically, you can do anything on open pods if you want to do like streaming or calls. And you can also stream from open pods to Twitch or YouTube. And it's, like, pretty easy to do. Like, you need to do it with a virtual camera for now through OBS, but it's still less computing power than if you do it from your computer. So that's a big plus. Yeah. But featured creators, yeah, it's people who want to do some content, and we can talk to them, what they want to do, they can be approved, quote, a quote, and they will be featured on open pots. Other people will see them and see their schedule of what they want to do. I think it's a pretty good idea, and it gives users of Snappy more to look at, you know? It also may be attached to that, we could make it to where if you're an approved, or whitelisted, as Pushcraft is saying, inside your profile on Snappy, or maybe next to your avatar, that could be like an open pod streamer or something, something clever. I mean, I think the name has to be. Yeah, that's the thing that you wanted to do, some badges or something. Yeah, badges. And one of the badges can be, like, approved open pod creator or something like this. Approved open potist. OpenPotist. Openly approved. Open approved. Open podists. Yeah. Something. I mean, I try not to be too serious with Snappy, so being silly would be kind of cool. Yeah, it's okay. But yeah, I love that idea. Well, as of yesterday, I went to bed really late again, because I'm an idiot. Um, hard to be able. I, yeah, I added the ability to schedule, um, to schedule your events on open pods now. So if you go to Snapy I.O and you go to the open pod tab, um, you don't have to ask for permission for this. You sign in and then you can create, uh, the event. And I think it's pretty intuitive how to use it. And it would show up on the, on Snappy IO. front end for now, you know. One of the challenges of this whole thing is getting other front ends to incorporate some of these things. Because ideally, even though they might not want to host the OpenPod SDK themselves, maybe they don't want to, the ability for it to show maybe there's one happening and give people the link so they can go check it out. I think it would benefit the whole community. But I should just try to talk to good karma and Asgarth from Eccency and PeakD respectively, and see if they're interested, you know. Obviously, you can't enforce them, but, but PigD is... It would help for sure. It's also, like, I don't think PigD has, like, open pods, like, implemented yet on them. No, they don't. So, it can be another, like, way for their community to talk to each other as well, so... Yeah, something I'll say. I am actually working on this, and, well, not just me, but Tip Fox, it's all open source, all of it. So, like, all this stuff can be looked at by other teams and more or less audit, make sure that we're not doing something that you're not supposed to do, or it's unsafe. But at the same time, also we're building SDKs. Do you know what an SDK is, San Calabom? Do you know what that is? A little bit, but you should probably tell it if people are going to listen or what should not know what it is. The best way you can think of SDK, so if I had to explain it, is an SDK is like a mini app for your app. So let's say that I have, I create a, this right here, this open pod app, you know, which is an app inside SNAPIAO. And in order for me to tell somebody else, like tell P-T or S&C or any other platform for that matter, hey, you should have open bots, you can go two routes. You could say, here's my code, copy it, which I guess you could, but it's not very efficient. Or you could create a package they can install inside their front end, you know, and literally if, because most people make web apps and and JavaScript and TypeScript and whatnot. They use a node package manager, and they put it in a case of NPM, which is a typical one, NPM, install, space, snappy, slash hangouts, and boom, it installs the hangouts on their front end. And they just got to tweak it. Let me add a little bit of these colors here, more aligned with... with my frontend and all stuff, but it's already there. So all the heavy lifting is done for the front end. They literally just install it. So we're building these things like SDKs so that anybody that wants to integrate them doesn't have to, I mean, that almost doesn't have to code, just install it. Put a link to it, that's it. Yeah, that's a good thing. And it just helps a lot to do this stuff. Because, you know, like, I can see how just copying a code is not really ideal, because then you, like, you need to do another addition to, oh, now you broke my recording by hitting someone else. Oh, did I, for real? Yeah, so now I need to, it's okay, I fixed it. Because I have a scene here. Because he might want to say something earlier. So, yeah, because, like... Because if you... Do I understand it correctly? If you copy, like, if you're building open pods, and then I'm copying your code and trying to add something, then we have, like, two different apps that work, like, a little bit different, right? Yeah, I mean, but... That's one issue. I guess you could get a point of being incompatible, but maybe that's not a bad thing. Arguably so, you could say, well, I just have a different idea or I want to incorporate it differently. But because we're trying to build something that could be consumed by different front ends, then we're not trying to build silos. So the idea would be, if you install my SDK, then snappy I.O. users. We'll see people making open pods from 3 -Speak TV, which, by the way, it's already live over there, although it's an older version, but if you were on 3-Speak TV right now, you could access this open pod and watch and chat and all of stuff. Yeah, yeah, if it's SDK, if it's SDK, then you can just... do it on any platform and it's all going to be the same with like small changes of maybe like how you i looks right yeah but if you copy code then some stuff might broke between platforms and it's not going to be compatible i mean Yeah, I mean, you could, again, this is OpenStarts, you could, you know, set up your own LiveKit servers, which is what's really working at the core of OpenPots that's like in the back end. And you could set up all those things yourself, do your own thing. Call it something different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but then it's going to be not, like, people from OpenPod won't see the thing that you made. Exactly. Yeah, and the core, yeah, the core point of the open pods, it's that. people can see it from like anything that it's implemented. So then they can go in and chat with each other and discover other communities through this as well. Exactly, that's the idea. I mean, in an ideal world, Essency would have it and Peak D would have it and, you know, all the major front ends would have it. Well, there's three major frontends. You have Hive.Blog, which is the, I know that Mangau and Bushcraft probably knows this, but my, I don't know if you do, but Hive.Blog is the first one, and that is like the basic front end for Hive. Nothing wrong with it per se, but it's kind of basic. And then PICD and S&C are the ones that kind of took over, and they are the flagship apps of Hive, some would argue. So if they were to take, maybe not Hive Block, but if those were to take any implementation of any idea that anybody would have, you could call it a success on Hive. You could call it a success. I mean, but they have implemented stuff that we've done. Like, you on, when we finish this recording, the audio, the podcast itself, what you will be able to listen to it from. Free Speak. Mangau was saying, funny thing I heard this week is the hive blog is still the front end with most visits. Yeah, I think it's because of the name, but it's obviously not the best front end, but the name, Hive, you know, so, like, oh, it's a hive, I gotta use Hive. Sadly, but it's not, it's barely maintained, a lot of stuff, I actually submitted a poll request, a poll request to, to update the video player, like this was like six months ago, and I quickly discovered that they were basically phasing it out. They weren't interested in updating it, and I had to really insist until they did. You don't like Essencey Bushcraft? I find it to be kind of like New York Mets and what's the other team? Don't ask me, I don't know any of them. But it's, yeah, it's kind of like the people that love us and see hate Big D and the other way around. It's got to be the indexing, yeah. But anyways, the goal also with these things is to get... to get PeakD and Essency to incorporate, if not the entirety of these SDKs, maybe a bridge of sorts, so people can click on them and kind of go to the app and participate of. So, for example, it could be, by the way, I don't know if you know this, but the idea of snaps, I think began with PeakD. I'm not 100% sure of this one, maybe Mengau can tell me if this is the case, but he's the one that, created the breakaway communities, okay, that we have here now, who hasn't said a word. By the way, you can talk, I mean, God, if you want to. Oh, Threats was the first? Okay, I didn't know that. That's from Leo, in Leo, which is more like a crypto-centric short-form platform. I have my reservations about that app, but they still have users and they have a strong community, I think. But at any rate, they, in my opinion, PIGD kind of set the standard for, like, general purpose, you know, short form content on Hive. And it kind of changed the mentality of the people on Hive because... Back in the day, short form was looked down on. Like, people, no, no, no, you got to write blogs. You've got to put a lot of effort. What do you mean? You're sharing a meme, and they will get really, I don't know what you would call it. It's like purity testing, elitist, in my opinion, very stupid attitude to have. But it was a thing. And now, you know, that Piki became so popular and it has so many users, then they don't care. And, of course, Pass forward a year later after Snappy launched, and we have the most users on short format of all the front ends. Funny, Mangau is saying, I'm just saying it because people are going to listen and I read the chat. Mangau saying funny ex-blad started using posts as containers for SkateHiver on the same time as in Leo, but I think they were first. Yeah, that is interesting. I did not know that. So you mean to tell me Skate Hive is older than Leo? Is that what you're telling me right now? If this is true, you're going to blow my mind. I thought Skate Hive was maybe a couple years old. Well, another thing I want to share regarding SNAPIOS, and so I'm going to share my updates on SNAPAIO. So I said the open pots are live, now you have scheduling. We have, there's an upgrade also on video uploads on SNAPPIO. Snappy I.O now has its own ingest server, isolated from 3Speak. That means that you're not sharing BANF or the uploads with 3Speak, which would make it faster. Then, and you're going to upload both short form from the SNAPs or long form from your blog composer from SNAPEIO. The blog composer on Snappy AEO now allows you to post to the Snappy community or post any community that you are subscribed to. That's another update that was done this last week. You can record long-form podcast also from your blog post, or maybe if you would like to read your post and do like a narration, you could as well. All that is live. None of this is the roadmap. It's already live. Then another thing that... that got integrated this week and I think you liked it too. I know Bushcraft liked it. So there's an activity counter that... Yeah, yeah, it's a nice touch. Yeah, that was actually Mengau's idea. Oh, that's really cool. Yeah. EscapeHive has been around longer than me, joined 2021. Wow, check that out, did not know that. Yeah, I mean, that was, he showed me like a mock-up of how he believed Snappy could improve. And one of the things I had was, like, activity idea. And then we discussed how, the logic, how would you do it? And so the way it's done is through windows of activity. So it takes the last half hour of the blockchain, and it adds up how many unique users are doing stuff. And then it just... But it has a, but it catches that information, so it's not doing it. It's doing it through a window system. So let's say five minutes go by, looks at the last five minutes, subtracts the things that happen, the five minutes that expired, adds the ones, and that's how it's doing. It's doing it through a window. And I have to say, I'm surprised the amount of activity, because I thought it was going to be lower, but there's some times that it's gotten up to like 4,000. Do auto votes count as activity? Currently, yes, because I don't have, the blockchain does not have a way to distinguish if something is done by a bot or it's done by human. So it's not accurate in that sense. I don't have a way, there's no way for you to know if a vote was done with a high vote. Probably only, like, some manual way to, like, exclude accounts. Mangau, would you please elaborate? The Avengal is saying that you can distinguish. How would you? You can open your mic, Mangau, if you want to talk. Yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah, loud and clear. It's, I'm pretty sure that Hive.Vote, which is what everyone uses, uses boosting authority. So you can check if the vote was done by Hyve.Vote or by the actual user. When Hyde. Vote does using posting authority, they're the ones voting, using the users posting authority. So it's on, I'm pretty sure it's on the blockchain that you can, and you can see that the vote was done by High Vote. That's interesting, okay, I understand. We would need to, I'm shooting this here, just, you know, but I didn't actually look into it to tell you for sure, but I'm pretty sure this is how it works. And Bushcraft said about the pick the auto voter, it would be the same thing. You just need to check if the vote was done. by the actual user or by PICD using the user's posting authority. Yeah, okay. I'm looking into it. Distinguish both. Yeah, that doesn't make sense because you would, if you're posting authority, the account signing the operation would be the one that has the authority and not the actual account. Exactly. So who's actually signing is not the actual account, is the voting, is the high vote or big D auto voter. Makes sense. All right. Well, I guess I can fine tune it like that. That's another idea to fine tune the tool. Yeah. By the way, I mean, I know the guys, everybody here knows this, but if you're listening to this later on, you find this video on 3Speak or... I guess we can slap it on YouTube as well. This is all our community, so to speak, and it's open source, so you can contribute. So, like, if you have, if you listen to the stuff, and you're like, oh, no, they should be done like this, and you have an idea, and you want to submit a report request, by all means, Montequia soft, three polls are open, and you can submit. With that note, Mangal submitted a PR this week himself. That got merged. All right, so I guess I'm going to, I want to talk a little bit about on this, on this call, what D-Speak is doing right now as well, although TIPS is not here. TRIPIC had a relaunch about a week ago. This is the fourth re-launch, I think, since we took it over. And I said we took it over, meaning the…

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